38 (Part 2): Mama Jo and Farmer Sarah, Disenfranchised Grief and Guest Sarah Kalny

Licensed professional counselors Johanna Dwinells and Sarah Bryski-Hamrick are slowly demystifying and destigmatizing therapy, one episode at a time. Recording and living in the Philadelphia area, Johanna and Sarah work to make therapy feel more accessible, with quirky, sometimes intrusive questions that reveal the human side of healthcare professionals, all while they overcome their own anxieties and internalized stigmas. 

TW: Grief, Loss, Suicide, Miscarriage, Mass Shootings

Episode summary: Johanna is a new mom. Sarah works on a farm. They both discuss grief across religions and the history of grief theory. Guest, Sarah Kalny, talks about working with disenfranchised grief and much more!

Guest Bio: Sarah is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor out of Massachusetts, specializing in grief and anxiety. She utilizes humor, a social justice perspective, and person-centered approach in her practice. 

Resources: Abortion Resources; The Raven Cycle book series by Maggie Stiefvater; Grief in Brief Podcast by Ken Barringer; What’s Your Grief Instagram; Hood Feminism by Mikki Kendall; Sarah Kalny’s Website, Twitter and Instagram

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Where can you find Sarah and Johanna:

Sarah: website; blog; etsy shop; instagram

Johanna: website; instagram

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