Episode 24: Fonts, OCD and Guest Kaileen McMickle

Licensed professional counselors Johanna Dwinells and Sarah Bryski-Hamrick are slowly demystifying and destigmatizing therapy, one episode at a time. Recording and living in the Philadelphia area, Johanna and Sarah work to make therapy feel more accessible, with quirky, sometimes intrusive questions that reveal the human side of healthcare professionals, all while they overcome their own anxieties and internalized stigmas. 

TW: Brief mention of SI

Episode summary: Johanna is grateful. Sarah celebrates. They both discuss fonts and the history of OCD. Guest, Kaileen McMickle, talks about working with anxiety, OCD and overcoming shame.

Guest Bio: Kaileen is a Licensed Professional Counselor and owner of Inner Ascent Counseling in Rice Lake, Wisconsin.  She has 8 years of experience working in the mental health field,  6 of those post-grad.  Her first clinical setting following graduation was in a trauma-based day treatment program for adolescents leading group therapy.  She now specializes in anxiety (with certification as a Certified Clinical Anxiety Treatment Professional) and trauma and is passionate about working with many of the ways anxiety and shame manifests for people including PTSD, OCD, perfectionism, panic, and stress.  

She loves to make time for her amazing 14 year-old daughter, connecting with friends and family, quiet early morning coffee, sometimes a good Netflix binge or video game, and frisbee golf (when nature thaws).

Sources for today’s History Lesson: med.stanford.edu; Mad world: Robert Burton’s The Anatomy of Melancholy by Michael Edwards; merriam-webster.com


Resources: Dr. Kristin Neff at self-compassion.org; Brene Brown at brenebrown.com


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