Episode 16: The Origins of the CW, Intergenerational Trauma and Guest Shanni Liang

Licensed professional counselors Johanna Dwinells and Sarah Bryski-Hamrick are slowly demystifying and destigmatizing therapy, one episode at a time. Recording and living in the Philadelphia area, Johanna and Sarah work to make therapy feel more accessible, with quirky, sometimes intrusive questions that reveal the human side of healthcare professionals, all while they overcome their own anxieties and internalized stigmas. 


TW: The Holocaust, Slavery, Physical abuse also NSFW for the amount of swearing we all do.

Episode summary: Johanna talks about how much yarn she has. Sarah emulsifies. They both discuss terms and history related to intergenerational trauma. Guest, Shanni Liang talks about working with trauma and EMDR and the benefits of therapy and also karaoke. 

Guest Bio: Shanni Liang is a licensed clinical social worker in New York City. She is a proud Asian American trauma therapist that specializes in EMDR and psychoanalysis which helps adolescents and young women with life transitions and overcoming anxiety, depression and attachment issues that hold them back in life. As a therapist who works with young Asian American women, she has noticed a pattern of perfectionism, pressure to perform and people pleasing until burnout and exhaustion. She teaches women to stop feeling small and start taking up space.

 She was born in Guangzhou China and immigrated to Pasadena, California at five years old and then raised for the rest of her life in Brooklyn at the age of 8 and on. She spoke Cantonese at home and spoke English at school. In July of 2021, she opened up her practice full time. Prior to private practice, she worked in a Department of Education as a school social worker in special education, outpatient mental health, inpatient mental health, group private practice, mental health startup for senior centers through NYCThrive, and Mental Health Suicide Crisis Hotline.

 When she is not in session with her clients, she spends time with her cat Coco, singing karaoke, finding new places to eat, watching comedy, spending quality time with family and friends, attending her own therapy and traveling around the world.

Sources for today’s History Lesson: “The Legacy of Trauma - An Emerging Line of Research is Exploring How Historical and Cultural Traumas Affect Survivors’ Children for Generations to Come” by Tori DeAngelis; “How Does Intergenerational Trauma Work? Definitions, studies, and examples” by Kathi Valeii; “How Collective Trauma Impacts Your Health” by Amy Morin, LCSW; wikipedia.org.

Resources: Zencare Blog Post “What to Ask Your Health Insurance To Check Mental Health Benefits and Therapy Benefits”; Remibursify App; WordSlut: A Feminist Guide to Taking Back the English Language by Amanda Montell; The F*ck It Diet: Eating Should be Easy by Caroline Dooner; Transforming the Living Legacy of Trauma: A Workbook for Survivors and Therapists by Janina Fisher; Minor Feelings: An Asian American Reckoning by Cathy Park Hong 


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