Episode 17: The 4th Grade, Income and Guest Felicia Keller Boyle

Licensed professional counselors Johanna Dwinells and Sarah Bryski-Hamrick are slowly demystifying and destigmatizing therapy, one episode at a time. Recording and living in the Philadelphia area, Johanna and Sarah work to make therapy feel more accessible, with quirky, sometimes intrusive questions that reveal the human side of healthcare professionals, all while they overcome their own anxieties and internalized stigmas. 


TW: Finances


Episode summary: Johanna reminisces about her BMX days. Sarah shares her opinion on Leonardo Dicaprio’s acting prowess. They both discuss the history and current status of student loans. Guest, Felicia Keller Boyle, talks about working as a coach for therapists and the relationship between therapists and money. 

Guest Bio: Felicia Keller Boyle is a therapist and business coach in California. She began mentoring and coaching other therapists while successfully running her own six figure practice working just three days a week. Felicia now teaches other therapists how to do the same in her program, Liberated Business. Therapists in Liberated Business learn how to build pleasure centered, wealth generating practices without sacrificing impact. During the pandemic Felicia learned to ride a motorcycle and is the proud owner of a Triumph Street Twin named Melty Baby.


Sources for today’s History Lesson: investopedia.com; www.newamerica.org; “History of Student Loans: Origins” By Richard Pallardy; “Student Loan Debt Statistics” by Melanie Hanson

Resources: Local organizations geared towards entrepreneurs, “find people who are like-minded and who are on board with you making money and earning a living”, Liberated Business, “Profit First: Transform Your Business from a Cash Eating Monster to a Money-Making Machine” by Mike Michalowitz


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